Fuller
The Fuller pedigree
[Fuller, 1910]
by
James Franklin Fuller
is very confused.
It shows:
- William Fuller marrying 1713 to Ellinor Hodder
and being parents of:
- George Fuller, married (licence 1702) to Catherine Austin, admitted to Freedom of Cork 1718.
- William Fuller, who married Jane Harnett.
- Thomas Fuller, listed as a "merchant" in 1721, married Lydia Green.
Which is clearly impossible (note the dates).
It also shows:
- William Fuller, born c.1714, marrying c.1740 to Jane Harnett
and being parents of:
- Thomas Fuller, bapt 1709, married (licence 1757) to Ann Purcell.
- William Fuller bapt 1712, married Ellen Hilliard.
Which is clearly impossible (note the dates).
Confused correction
Fuller makes a correction to the above in
[Fuller, 1912-13].
He says William (who married Ellinor Hodder), George and Thomas (who married Lydia Green) should be brothers.
But this raises more questions than it answers.
First, he already had William (who married Jane Harnett) as their brother. What happens to him now?
Second, it does not address the problem with the dates for William (who married Jane Harnett) and his sons.
Corrected pedigree
We start with:
William Fuller,
born probably c.1700,
obtained a lease of lands near Tralee, Co.Kerry, in 1733,
mar
Jane Harnett
[brother of James Harnett
of Sunday's Well, Cork],
the will
of her brother James Harnett,
dated 1779,
refers to his nephew Thomas and
the latter's three sons
[Fuller, 1868],
William was bur 1768,
Jane was bur 1774,
had issue:
Thomas Fuller,
the baptism date of 1709 for him in
[Fuller, 1910]
seems impossible if he has a father living 1768, a mother living 1774 and an uncle living 1779,
more likely born c.1730,
mar (licence 1757) to Ann Purcell [born 1736],
mar licence thought NOT to be 1767,
appointed Sheriff of Cork in 1774,
will dated 1790, proved 1791,
had issue:
- James Fuller,
inherited from his grand-uncle James Harnett
by his will of 1779,
mar 1788
[Fuller, 1866, p.356]
to Elizabeth Gun
[born post-1765, descendant of Edward III],
other sources give mar 1783,
which is less likely because would be long gap until children,
adopted surname Harnett after death of his father 1791,
"James Fuller Harnett",
of Aghamore, Co.Kerry,
will
dated 15 Jan 1794,
see abstract
on p.192 in
[Fisher Mss Will Notes A]
(also here),
he died Jan-Mar 1794,
will proved 19 Mar 1794,
Elizabeth re-married Jan-May 1794 to
William Ponsonby,
her children lived with her and Ponsonby
(Sara married in Crotto, where her husband Daniel Guion writes from),
had issue:
- Sara Harnett,
or Sarah, born 1792 or 1793
(according to ages given in census and at death),
"Sarah Fuller Harnett" in father's will 1794,
"Sara Guion" in her own will,
would be named after maternal grandmother Sarah Stoughton,
[Notebook of Alphons Albers]
calls her "Miss Sally",
and
says she
"was a beautiful girl, but was called on account of her frightful temper the beautiful fiend",
mar c.1809 to
Daniel Guion.
-
Thomas Fuller Harnett, born 1793,
who was hanged for forgery in 1820.
- John Fuller,
inherited from his grand-uncle James Harnett
by his will of 1779,
adopted surname Harnett after death of his father 1791,
"John Fuller Harnett".
-
Capt. Edward Fuller,
who married in 1791 to Elizabeth Blennerhassett.
Ann Purcell.
From
here
in
Stokes family photos
by Teresa Stokes.
Used with permission.
See lower-quality
photo of photo
from
here.
Meant to be
Elizabeth Gun ("mother of Mrs. Guion - Mrs Harnett")
except seems far too old for her.
She was born born post-1765 and died 1812, age less than 47.
Courtesy of Sylvia Goiran and Adair Hobson.
John Fuller Harnett.
See larger
and full size.
From here
in
Stokes family photos
by Teresa Stokes.
Used with permission.
See lower-quality
photo of photo
from here.
References
- Works by James Franklin Fuller
-
FULLER
on pp.249-250
in [Burkes Irish, 1912]
- FULLER in [Burkes LG, 1937, Irish supplement]
- FULLER
in [Burkes Irish, 2002]
(This is copy of 1937 edn.)
- Royal Descent of Fuller, on
p.35
of
[Foster's Royal Descents, vol.2, 1884].
- Pedigree CCXVIII (FULLER) in [Burkes Royal Families, 1876]
- Fuller of Canada
in
[Burkes Colonial Gentry, vol.2, 1895]
- FULLER
on pp.81-82
of
vol.4 (1904)
of
Crisp's Visitation of Ireland.
- Copy of confirmation of arms to the descendants of Capt. Edward Fuller, July 1874.
-
In
"Grants and Confirmations of Arms", Vol. G,
1863-1880.
[NLI] GO
Ms 109.
- This is digitised and online here.
- See Fuller on
p.299 top and
p.299 bottom and
p.300.
- This includes details of Fuller descents.
- Copy in microfilm POS 8291.
- Pedigrees compiled by Denis O'Callaghan Fisher; extracts from various records relating to the Fuller family.
[NLI]
Go Ms. 282.
- Miscellaneous genealogical papers, including notes or pedigrees of the families of Fuller.
[RIA]
Upton Papers, 25/2
(shelved at SR/Bay 13).
Index in Special list A 008
(shelved at RR/Recess case 4/TS).
- Twenty letters
from Sir Arthur Vicars
to James Franklin Fuller, mainly on genealogical matters, 1904-16.
[NLI]
microfilm POS 4955.
Originals in possession of Basil O'Connell as at 1960.
This was meant to be
GO Ms. 151, pp. 142-3,
microfilm POS 8298,
but nothing found there.
Sources yet to be consulted
