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The Blennerhassett Challenge - Some ideas for things to do

Here are some of my ideas for things to do if you are having a go at The Blennerhassett Challenge.

It is possible that you need to do none of these, and you can think of some clever search that will solve this problem overnight. One of the reasons I am throwing this open to the world is to look for new ideas. How would you tackle this problem?

Read these first!

Things to do - Our Cashels

The proper way to do genealogical research is to start with the known and work backwards to the unknown. Here are things to do starting with our known Cashel family and working backwards.


Internet

Search for names in online databases:
  1. Sources

  2. Links


Google searches

with Cashel:
  1. Blennerhassett
  2. Blenerhassett
  3. Blennerhasett
  4. Blennerhasset
  5. Blenerhasett
  6. Blenerhasset
  7. Blennerhaset
  8. Blenerhaset
with Cashell:
  1. Blennerhassett
  2. Blenerhassett
  3. Blennerhasett
  4. Blennerhasset
  5. Blenerhasett
  6. Blenerhasset
  7. Blennerhaset
  8. Blenerhaset
with Cashel:
  1. Blenner Hassett
  2. Blener Hassett
  3. Blenner Hasett
  4. Blenner Hasset
  5. Blener Hasett
  6. Blener Hasset
  7. Blenner Haset
  8. Blener Haset
with Cashell:
  1. Blenner Hassett
  2. Blener Hassett
  3. Blenner Hasett
  4. Blenner Hasset
  5. Blener Hasett
  6. Blener Hasset
  7. Blenner Haset
  8. Blener Haset
with Cashel:
  1. Blennarhassett
  2. Blenarhassett
  3. Blennarhasett
  4. Blennarhasset
  5. Blenarhasett
  6. Blenarhasset
  7. Blennarhaset
  8. Blenarhaset
with Cashell:
  1. Blennarhassett
  2. Blenarhassett
  3. Blennarhasett
  4. Blennarhasset
  5. Blenarhasett
  6. Blenarhasset
  7. Blennarhaset
  8. Blenarhaset
with Cashel:
  1. Hassett
  2. Hasett
  3. Hasset
  4. Haset
with Cashell:
  1. Hassett
  2. Hasett
  3. Hasset
  4. Haset
with Cashel:
  1. Ponsonby
  2. Letitia Ponsonby
  3. Richard Ponsonby
with Cashell:
  1. Ponsonby
  2. Letitia Ponsonby
  3. Richard Ponsonby


RIC

  1. RIC

  2. William Armstrong

  3. [PRO.UK]

  4. RIC List - search complete list
    • search for events - rewards etc.
    • any way of tracking his exact station before 1846?

  5. [NAI]
    • (todo) Full search of George Cashel (police) in [CSORP] - very hard to search
    • done initial pass - nothing found for his joining, 2 promotions, or reward in 1856
    • Order photocopy of George Cashel drunk incident

  6. His wife was meant to be a relative of the notorious Fenian Kickham family, opponents of the RIC. Could notes on his Kickham Fenian connections survive? In London?


Parish records

  1. Search for:
    All Catholic [NLI] or Protestant [RCB]
    baptisms or marriages
    of Cashel or Cashell
    in all parishes in Co.Kerry
    from say 1780 to 1815.

    wife's / mother's name:
    Blennerhassett or Hassett
    or Ponsonby or Harding

  2. Co.Kerry libraries and centres
  3. RC Diocese of Kerry

  4. Have DONE first pass of all CoI par records in [RCB]:
    • Dingle (1707)
    • Kilgobban (1713)
    • Tralee (1771)
    • Ballynacourty (1803)

  5. (todo) See these CoI par records:
    • Kilnaughtin (1785) - local custody, and [NLI] microfilm 17
    • Listowel (1790) - local custody
    • Nohavaldaly (1792) - local custody
    • Kenmare (1799) - local custody

  6. Have DONE first pass of all RC par records in [NLI] microfilm parish records:
    • Tralee (1772)
    • Causeway (1782)
    • Killarney (1792)
    • Killeentierna (1801)
    • Listowel (1802)
    • Castlemaine (1804)
    • Ballyferriter (1807)
    • Much of them illegible though.
    • (todo) See indexed records. Indexed par records have been given to each parish priest.
    • modern RC parishes of Tralee, Causeway, Killarney, Killeentierna, Listowel, Castlemaine, Ballyferriter.


Other Ireland

  1. [LR]
    1. 63 Carrick St, Mullinahone


Where Cashels buried?

  1. Limerick - known Sheahan grave
  2. Mary Kickham death
  3. contact local FHS for gravestone inscriptions
  4. search for BLENNERHASSETT and CASHEL and KICKHAM and ARMSTRONG and LECOQ

  5. Mullinahone area
    1. Lismolin graveyard

  6. Ferns area
    1. Ferns graveyard
      • Ferns inscriptions in Memorials of the Dead, Brian J. Cantwell, Co.Wexford, vol V, 185-186, [NAI] RR, [NLI] Ir 9295 c 2. No CASHEL found.
      • Ferns inscriptions meant to be in Journal of Association for preservation of the Memorials of the Dead vol.5-7, [NLI] IR 9295 I 1, but Ferns not found there

  7. Leighlinbridge area
    1. Agha graveyard
    2. Newtown graveyard
    3. Wells graveyard
      • Wells inscriptions meant to be in Co.Carlow Tombstone Inscriptions vol.4, by Muintir na Tire, [NLI] IR 9295 c 3, but vol.4 not found in [NLI]
  8. Bagenalstown area
    1. Dunleckny graveyard
      • (todo) see "Dunleckny headstone inscriptions", Andrew Morris, [NLI] GO, also [LDS] film 6342811
    2. Curraghacruit graveyard

  9. George Cashel, 1882, Killeshin
  10. William Henry Cashel, Croom, 1891

Kickham and Armstrong and Lecoq

George Cashel's wife is related to Kickham and Armstrong and Lecoq.
This may or may not help in the solution of the link of Cashel to Blennerhassett.
It might be completely irrelevant to look at the family tree of George Cashel's wife.


Ireland

  1. [GROI]
    1. Kickham - go through all pages

  2. Armstrong pedigrees and Mss.

  3. Kickham, Armstrong, Lecoq

  4. [NLI] Ms. sources

  5. [NAI]
    1. search for Kickham wills

  6. Kickham museum items moved to Tipperary County Museum, Clonmel.

LR

Search for KICKHAM and ARMSTRONG and LECOQ in [LR]


  1. done first pass of KICKHAM and ARMSTRONG and LECOQ in 1758-1812
    (todo) see transcripts of the following ones of interest:

    Grantor Grantee Date Vol Page No
    John Leacock Martin 1758-68 224 525 147261
    John, Thomas and Hugh Leacock Leacock 1805 564 527 381875
    Rev. Robert Armstrong Bradshaw 1810 631 235 432400

  2. done first pass of KICKHAM in 1833-59
    (todo) see transcripts of the following ones of interest:

    Grantor Grantee Place Year Vol No
    James Kickham Bernard O'Halloran Co.Tipperary 1847 10 265
    Catherine Kickham Bernard O'Halloran Co.Tipperary 1847 10 265
    James Kickham John Murphy Co.Tipperary 1856 25 122
    Nanno Kickham Thomas Purcell   1852 23 145
    Rev. Roger Kickham Eliza Numan Cork city 1855 16 229
    Rev. Roger Kickham Rev. John Murphy Cork city 1856 32 109

Things to do - Other Cashels and Blennerhassetts

It is always dangerous to do genealogical research the other way round - starting with disconnected families and trying to connect them to your family.

However, in this case it may make sense to look at the main family of Blennerhassettt of Co.Kerry, since "A. Blennerhassett, J.P.", who recommended our George Cashel for the County Constabulary in 1828, is probably a relation, and is almost certainly one of these 3 Arthur Blennerhassetts in the main Blennerhassettt family.

There is also another Cashel / Cashell family that is provably related to the Blennerhassetts, through a marriage in the 1720s. These may or may not be related to our Cashels.


Cashel family trees

  1. Find any existing CASHEL / CASHELL family trees
  2. CASHEL / CASHELL in:

  3. Cashel of Limerick being researched by: Leonie Bedggood, Waimate North, R.D.2, Kaikohe Nthld 0454, New Zealand
  4. James M. Niall in Australia (born 1915) did Cashell of Bushfield genealogy
  5. LDS IGI possible Cashell family trees here and here

  6. find Emily Cashel, family tree 1920s


Newspapers

  1. newspapers

  2. known articles:

  3. search for:

  4. funeral lists - did Cashel attend?


UK

  1. [GRO.UK]


NLI

  1. [NLI] Ms
    1. CASHEL of Co.Tipperary, in Sadleir Pedigrees, [NLI] GO Ms 576, p.41, missing right now
    2. Rowan-Sheircliffe mar settlement, 1722
    3. Eagar sources - some of these sources may have Cashell pedigree

    4. BLENNERHASSETT in Consolidated Index to GO

    5. ROWAN in Consolidated Index to GO
    6. Rowan papers - just read them all

  2. [NLI]
    1. CASHEL in Grants/Confirmations of Arms, [NLI] GO Ms 110-111 a-h, vol.108, p.440 (Hoey), [NLI] microfilm 8292-3
    2. 1st Baronet arms 1808 - write to [NLI] GO - check no pedigree deposited

    3. Extract from the Blennerhassett Pedigree, Mary Hickson, 1890, Proc. RSAI, series 5, vol.1, part 1, pp.323-4 (think "vol.21"), see also vol.15, p.356
    4. BLENNERHASSETT in [O'Hart], 4th edn, 1887, 1:818

    5. BLENNERHASSETT references
      1. (the old) The Kerry Magazine, 1:74, 8:38
      2. Kerry Archaeological Magazine, 3:125, 4:17,75,191
      3. [Journal of CHAS], [NLI] Ir 794105 c 1, 2nd series, 2:306, 5:102,187, 6:217-9
      4. Journal of Association for Preservation of Memorials of the Dead, 1:406, 7:363-4 (also has ROWAN),367,370-8,598 (Funeral Entry p.350), 9:491

    6. ROWAN in [ffolliott, Cork, Kerry]
    7. ROWAN in [O'Hart]
    8. ROWAN in [Foster's Royal Descents, 1887] p.378, 590
    9. Pedigree of Rowan, [NLI] GO Ms 112, pp.211-3, microfilm POS 1230 and 8295

    10. ROWAN references
      1. Kerry Archaeological Magazine, 1:467

    11. NLI has O'Connell papers, think at least Ms 13645 to 13660 - Rowan trial


Other Ireland

  1. [NAI]
    1. BLENNERHASSETT in [O'Kief]
    2. Rowan Francis Cashel will

    3. "A.Blennerhassett J.P."
      • Cashel had to be personally known to him
      • Cashel had to use a local J.P. - same parish
      • Is there an exhaustive list of J.P.'s of Co.Kerry and what times they served?
      • NAI may have Court Records - think appointed for life - need list of when appointed
      • would High Sheriff of Co.Kerry mean NOT J.P.?

  2. [TCD]
    • "A full account of the murder of Mr. John Cashel, June 28, 1732", by John Burnsides, Dublin, 1732, [TCD] Irish pamphlets, vol. v, no. 265, Press 1. 62.

  3. [UCD]

  4. [KCL]
    1. Rental books of the Denny estate apparently mention Cashel, who lived nearby.
    2. Tralee Miscellany vol.5
    3. Tralee Protestant par records, Hickson
    4. McMorran, history of Tralee
    5. BLENNERHASSETT folder in drawer
    6. BLENNERHASSETT in Journal of the KAHS
    7. BLENNERHASSETT in the old Kerry Magazine
    8. BLENNERHASSETT in [Godfrey Papers]
    9. BLENNERHASSETT in index of Hickson

  5. Blennerville - church gone, but par records may survive in [RCB]

  6. Where Cashels buried?

  7. Blennerhassett graves:
    • Ballyseedy - Old graves have no inscriptions.
    • Blennerville - None except Arthur Blennerhassett.
    • Ballymacelligott


LR

Search for CASHEL/CASHELL and BLENNERHASSETT in [LR]


  1. done first pass of CASHEL/CASHELL and BLENNERHASSETT in 1758-1812
    (todo) see transcripts of the following ones of interest:

    Grantor Grantee Date Vol Page No
    Henry Cashell Going 1758-68 215 87 140894
    Henry Cashell Going 1789 404 72 267241
    Francis Worth Cashell Lowndes 1793 477 375 302664
    Francis W. Cashell Maunsell 1797 509 28 illegible
    Francis W. Cashell Maunsell 1797 492 358 328136
    Francis W. Cashell White 1798 513 280 337126
    George Cashell Powel 1802 547 136 360293
    George Cashell Markey 1805 578 194 387732
    George Cashell and wife Sim 1806 586 20 394595

    Grantor Grantee Date Vol Page No
    Arthur Blennerhassett and wife Sheircliffe 1758-68 196 77 129189
    Gerald Blennerhassett Harding 1758-68 239 370 158825
    John Blennerhassett Ponsonby 1758-68 207 209 137138
    Arthur Blennerhassett and wife Ponsonby 1769-84 349 52 232866
    Richard Blennerhassett Murphy 1792 447 315 290263
    Robert A. Blennerhassett and wife Hickson 1804 565 151 376935
    Robert A. Blennerhassett and wife Hickson 1804 565 152 376936
    Arthur Blennerhassett Hickson 1807 589 91 400329

  2. done first pass of CASHEL/CASHELL in 1840-59
    (todo) see transcripts of the following ones of interest:

    Grantor Grantee Place Year Vol No
    George Cashel, and George Cashel the younger Thomas Bennett Co.Limerick 1840 10 206
    Jannett Cashel Thomas Bennett Co.Limerick 1840 10 206
    Alicia R. Cashel John C. Walker Co.Tipperary 1842 4 239
    Henry G. Cashel George Roe Co.Tipperary 1842 6 21
    Elizabeth Cashel George Roe Co.Tipperary 1842 6 21
    Henry G. Cashel George Roe Co.Tipperary 1842 9 81
    George Cashel William Chute Co.Kerry 1842 13 158
    Henry G. Cashel Sir William Galwey Co.Tipperary 1844 3 119
    Elizabeth Cashel Sir William Galwey Co.Tipperary 1844 3 119
    Henry G. Cashel Samuel Webb Co.Tipperary 1845 12 4
    George Cashel   Co.Kerry, Co.Tipperary 1846 8 263
    Robert Cashel   Co.Kerry, Co.Tipperary 1846 8 263
    Robert Cashel Richard McGillicuddy Co.Kerry, Co.Tipperary 1846 8 264
    George Cashel Robert Cashell Dublin, Co.Kerry, Co.Tipperary 1846 12 217
    Rowan P. Cashel William L. Cashel Co.Tipperary 1847 6 99
    George Cashel   Co.Kerry 1847 19 55
    Henry G. Cashel Christopher Delmege Co.Tipperary 1848 16 281
    Rowan P. Cashel Patrick Meara Co.Tipperary 1848 18 267
    William L. Cashel Patrick Meara Co.Tipperary 1848 18 267
    Henry Cashell Patrick D. Jeffers Co.Kerry 1840 17 152
    Ellen Cashel George Cashel   1854 16 29
    George Cashel   Co.Kerry 1850 7 109
    George Cashel and wife Robert F. Cashel Co.Kerry 1853 5 171
    Frederick K. Cashel Edward Biggs   1856 2 111
    Frederick K. Cashel Edward Biggs Co.Tipperary 1856 19 263
    Frederick K. Cashel Edward Biggs Co.Tipperary 1858 2 182
    Henrietta A.M. Cashel George Bolton Queen's Co, Co.Tipperary 1850 11 291
    Jane A. Cashel and husband Robert F. Cashel Co.Kerry 1853 5 171
    Rowan P. Cashel Anthony Parker Co.Tipperary 1859 4 290
    Rowan F. Cashel Thomas Pine Co.Tipperary 1859 35 9
    Rowan F. Cashel Thomas Pine Co.Tipperary 1859 35 10

  3. done first pass of CASHEL/CASHELL in 1880-89
    (todo) see transcripts of the following ones of interest:

    Grantor Grantee Place Year Vol No
    Charlotte Cashel Frederick Willington Co.Tipperary 1885 48 139
    Francis Cashel James King Co.Kerry 1888 33 114
    George Cashel Commissioners of Public Works Co.Tipperary 1881 4 41
    George Cashel Thomas King Co.Tipperary 1885 37 143
    Susan Cashel Michael Ryan Co.Tipperary 1887 11 24

Letitia Blennerhassett of the Killorglin branch

Taking a closer look at the only known Letitia Blennerhassett of the right age at that time in Co.Kerry:

Dublin - NAI and NLI

  1. [NAI]
    • Miller in [Patrick Carroll's Notebooks].
    • [O'Kief]
      • done quick pass of LINDSAY, MILLER, PONSONBY
      • (todo) exhaustive search - big job
    • [CSORP] - very hard to search
      • William Miller arrested and dismissed 1830
      • apparently nothing on Belfast police
      • nothing found on Thomas Lindsay appointment 1830

  2. [NLI]
    • History of Ponsonby
    • History of Crotto
    • 1806 Ponsonby scandal? divorce? separation?
    • Fuller - Letitia was his grand-aunt

  3. [NLI] newspapers
    1. Rev. John Blennerhassett death 1804 - Limerick Chronicle - known article
    2. Louisa case 1827 - try Chute's Western Herald
    3. 1829 - George Cashel drunk incident
    4. William Miller arrested and dismissed 1830
    5. Letitia Lindsay death 1834
    6. deaths - funeral lists

  4. [NLI] newspapers - Belfast funeral lists - did George Cashel go to funeral?
    • Thomas Lindsay, Belfast, 1861
      • searched Belfast Morning News
      • searched Belfast Newsletter
      • searched Northern Whig
    • Thomas Lindsay's wife 1858
      • Belfast Morning News
      • Belfast Newsletter
      • Northern Whig (offsite - ring in advance)

  5. police records

Other Dublin

  1. [LR]
    • Decipher the legal language in [Deed, 1806].
    • Search for Ponsonby deed, 12 Nov 1795
    • Wider search of index for these names:
      1. PONSONBY - have searched around 1806 and 1811 - have searched 1822-39.
      2. LINDSAY - have searched around 1806 and 1811 - have searched 1833-59. (todo) Search 1862, 1876.
      3. MILLER - have searched around 1838.
      4. MONSELL - have searched around 1838.

  2. par records

  3. [RIA]
    • Fuller - Letitia was his grand-aunt

Outside Dublin

  1. NI police museum

  2. [PRO.NI]

  3. Limerick - St.Munchin's - Monsell grave - inscriptions at limerickancestry.com
  4. Limerick - Cathedral - George Lindsay's wife's grave
  5. Ballylongford, Co.Kerry - Letitia grave
  6. Co.Kerry - Parish records - local custody

  7. Humphrey Lindsay paid Debrett's to do research. Can I get copy of it from Debrett's?


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