Leo van de Pas wrote: > > > > A while ago Margaret, Countess of Salisbury, 1473-1541, was > > discussed and also whether she had descendants. I found one > > line of descent which may be of interest (my apologies, I enjoy > > head-hunting): > > > > Margaret, Countess of Salisbury > > 1473-1541 > > I > > Henry Pole, 1st Baron Montagu > > 1492-1539 > > I > > Hon Catherine Pole > > I > > George Hastings, 4th Earl of Huntingdon > > 1540-1604 > > I > > Francis Hastings, Lord Hastings > > 1560-1595 > > I > > Catherine Hastings > > I > > Lady Sarah Stanhope > > I > > Sir Charles Hoghton, 4th Baronet > > 1643-1710 > > I > > Lucy Hoghton > > I > > Henry Lutwidge > > 1724-1798 > > I > > Charles Lutwidge > > 1768-1848 > > I > > Frances Jane Lutwidge > > I > > Lewis Carroll, author of 'Alice in Wonderland' > > (Charles Lutwige Dodgson) > > 1832-1898 > > > > As is obvious, dates are missing, can anyone fill in some of those > > gaps? Many thanks, > > Leo van de Pas Leo: Hmm. Based on what you posted, I came up with the following: Direct Descendants of Edward III of England 1 Edward III of England b: 13 Nov 1312 d: 21 Jun 1377 ref #: F229:12 +Philippa de Hainault b: 24 Jun 1311 d: 15 Aug 1369 ref #: A103-34 2 Lionel Plantagenet b: 29 Nov 1338 d: 17 Oct 1368 ref #: F230:11 +Elizabeth de Burgh b: 6 Jul 1332 d: 10 Dec 1363 ref #: F43:12i 3 Philippa Plantagenet b: 16 Aug 1355 d: 5 Jan 1381/82 ref #: F231:10 +Edmund de Mortimer b: 1 Feb 1351/52 d: 27 Dec 1381 ref #: W36-9 4 Elizabeth de Mortimer b: 12 Feb 1370/71 d: 20 Apr 1417 ref #: F148:10 +Henry de Percy b: 20 May 1364 d: 21 Jul 1403 ref #: F219:9i 5 [10] Henry Percy b: 3 Feb 1392/93 d: 22 May 1455 ref #: F149:9 +[9] Alainor Neville b: Abt. 1407 d: 1472 ref #: F15:11ivf 6 Henry Percy b: 25 Jul 1421 d: 29 Mar 1461 ref #: F149:8 +Alianor Poynings b: Abt. 1422 d: Feb 1483/84 ref #: BxP:211 7 Anne Percy ref #: F149:7ii +Thomas Hungerford d: 1469 ref #: F32:9 8 [8] Mary Hungerford b: Abt. 1467 d: Bef. 10 Jul 1533 ref #: F32:9i +[7] Edward Hastings b: 26 Nov 1466 d: 8 Nov 1506 ref #: F134:7 9 [4] George Hastings b: 1488 d: 24 Mar 1543/44 ref #: F135:6 +[3] Anne Stafford b: Abt. 1493 ref #: F7:7ii 10 [2] Francis Hastings b: 1514 d: 23 Jun 1560 ref #: F135:6i +[1] Katherine Pole b: 1511 d: 23 Sep 1576 ref #: F255:5 11 George Hastings b: 1540 d: 3 Dec 1604 +Dorothy Port d: 1607 12 Francis Hastings b: 1560 d: 1595 +Sarah Harrington d: 1629 13 Catherine Hastings 14 Sarah Stanhope 15 Charles Hoghton b: 1643 d: 1710 16 Lucy Hoghton 17 Henry Lutwidge b: 1724 d: 1798 18 Charles Lutwidge b: 1768 d: 1848 19 Frances Jane Lutwidge 20 Charles Lutwidge Dodgson b: 1832 d: 1898 *2nd Husband of [8] Mary Hungerford: *2nd Husband of Elizabeth de Mortimer: +Thomas de Camoys d: 28 Mar 1421 ref #: BPci:364 4 Roger de Mortimer b: 11 Apr 1374 d: 20 Jul 1398 ref #: F232:9 +Alainor [I] de Holand b: Bef. 1387 d: Oct 1405 ref #: F140:8iii 5 [22] Anne Mortimer b: 27 Dec 1390 d: Sep 1411 ref #: F232:9i +[21] Richard Plantagenet b: Abt. Sep 1376 d: 5 Aug 1415 ref #: F292:8 6 [14] Richard Plantagenet b: 21 Sep 1411 d: 30 Dec 1460 ref #: F292:7 +[13] Cecily Neville b: 3 May 1415 d: 31 May 1495 ref #: F15:11ivh 7 [6] George Plantagenet b: 21 Oct 1449 d: 1478 ref #: F294:6 +[5] Isabel Neville b: 5 Sep 1451 d: 22 Dec 1476 ref #: F193:6ia 8 Margaret Plantagenet b: 14 Aug 1473 d: 28 May 1541 ref #: F254:7 +Richard Pole d: Bef. 18 Dec 1505 ref #: W57-13 9 [16] Henry Pole b: Abt. 1492 d: 9 Jan 1538/39 ref #: F255:6 +[15] Jane Neville b: Abt. 1481 d: 9 Jan 1538/39 ref #: F212:5iii 10 [1] Katherine Pole b: 1511 d: 23 Sep 1576 ref #: F255:5 +[2] Francis Hastings b: 1514 d: 23 Jun 1560 ref #: F135:6i *2nd Wife of Lionel Plantagenet: 2 John of Gaunt b: Mar 1339/40 d: 3 Feb 1398/99 ref #: F15:11 *2nd Wife of John of Gaunt: *3rd Wife of John of Gaunt: +Katherine Roet b: 1350 d: 10 May 1403 3 John Beaufort b: Abt. 1372 d: 16 Mar 1409/10 ref #: F16:10 +Margaret de Holand b: 1385 d: 30 Dec 1429 ref #: F140:8ii 4 Edmund Beaufort b: Abt. 1406 d: 22 May 1455 ref #: F17:9 +Alianor Beauchamp b: 1407 d: 4 Mar 1466/67 ref #: F13:9i 5 [12] Margaret Beaufort b: Abt. 1437 d: 1474 ref #: F17:9v +[11] Humphrey Stafford b: Abt. 1424 d: 22 May 1455 ref #: F7:8 6 Henry Stafford b: 4 Sep 1455 d: 2 Nov 1483 ref #: F7:7 +Katherine Wydeville b: Bef. 1458 d: Aft. 22 Jul 1525 ref #: BxP:584 7 [3] Anne Stafford b: Abt. 1493 ref #: F7:7ii *2nd Husband of [3] Anne Stafford: +[4] George Hastings b: 1488 d: 24 Mar 1543/44 ref #: F135:6 *2nd Husband of [12] Margaret Beaufort: 3 Joan Beaufort b: Abt. 1379 d: 13 Nov 1440 ref #: F15:11iv *2nd Husband of Joan Beaufort: +Ralph de Neville b: Abt. 1364 d: 21 Oct 1425 ref #: W45-7 4 Richard Neville b: Abt. 1400 d: 30 Dec 1460 ref #: F15:11ivb +Alice Montacute b: Abt. 1408 d: Bef. 9 Dec 1462 ref #: F193:8 5 [20] Richard Neville b: 22 Nov 1428 d: 14 Apr 1471 ref #: F193:6i +[19] Anne Beauchamp b: Sep 1426 d: Bef. 20 Sep 1492 ref #: F13:9iii 6 [5] Isabel Neville b: 5 Sep 1451 d: 22 Dec 1476 ref #: F193:6ia +[6] George Plantagenet b: 21 Oct 1449 d: 1478 ref #: F294:6 5 Katherine Neville b: Abt. 1435 d: Bef. 25 Mar 1504 ref #: F134:8 *2nd Husband of Katherine Neville: +William Hastings b: Abt. 1431 d: 14 Jun 1483 ref #: (F134:8) 6 [7] Edward Hastings b: 26 Nov 1466 d: 8 Nov 1506 ref #: F134:7 +[8] Mary Hungerford b: Abt. 1467 d: Bef. 10 Jul 1533 ref #: F32:9i 4 [9] Alainor Neville b: Abt. 1407 d: 1472 ref #: F15:11ivf *2nd Husband of [9] Alainor Neville: +[10] Henry Percy b: 3 Feb 1392/93 d: 22 May 1455 ref #: F149:9 4 [24] Anne Neville b: Abt. 1411 d: 20 Sep 1480 ref #: F15:11ivg +[23] Humphrey Stafford b: 15 Aug 1402 d: 10 Jul 1460 ref #: F7:9 5 [11] Humphrey Stafford b: Abt. 1424 d: 22 May 1455 ref #: F7:8 +[12] Margaret Beaufort b: Abt. 1437 d: 1474 ref #: F17:9v *2nd Husband of [24] Anne Neville: 4 [13] Cecily Neville b: 3 May 1415 d: 31 May 1495 ref #: F15:11ivh +[14] Richard Plantagenet b: 21 Sep 1411 d: 30 Dec 1460 ref #: F292:7 4 [18] Edward Neville b: Abt. 1417 d: 18 Oct 1476 ref #: F15:11ive +[17] Elizabeth Beauchamp b: 16 Sep 1415 d: 18 Jun 1448 ref #: F211:6 5 George Neville b: 1440 d: 20 Sep 1492 ref #: F212:5 +Margaret Fenne b: 1444 d: 28 Sep 1485 6 [15] Jane Neville b: Abt. 1481 d: 9 Jan 1538/39 ref #: F212:5iii +[16] Henry Pole b: Abt. 1492 d: 9 Jan 1538/39 ref #: F255:6 *2nd Wife of George Neville: *2nd Wife of [18] Edward Neville: 2 Edmund Plantagenet b: 5 Jun 1344 d: 1 Aug 1402 ref #: F291:9 +Isabella de Castile b: 1355 d: 23 Nov 1393 ref #: BRF:109 3 Constance Plantagenet b: Abt. 1374 d: 29 Nov 1416 ref #: F210:8 +Thomas le Despencer b: 22 Sep 1373 d: 13 Jan 1399/00 ref #: F62:9i 4 Isabel le Despencer b: 26 Jul 1400 d: 27 Dec 1439 ref #: F211:7 +Richard de Beauchamp b: Abt. 1397 d: Aft. 18 Mar 1421/22 ref #: F106:12iiia 5 [17] Elizabeth Beauchamp b: 16 Sep 1415 d: 18 Jun 1448 ref #: F211:6 +[18] Edward Neville b: Abt. 1417 d: 18 Oct 1476 ref #: F15:11ive *2nd Husband of Isabel le Despencer: +Richard de Beauchamp b: 28 Jan 1381/82 d: 30 Apr 1439 ref #: F13:9 5 [19] Anne Beauchamp b: Sep 1426 d: Bef. 20 Sep 1492 ref #: F13:9iii +[20] Richard Neville b: 22 Nov 1428 d: 14 Apr 1471 ref #: F193:6i *2nd Husband of Constance Plantagenet: 3 [21] Richard Plantagenet b: Abt. Sep 1376 d: 5 Aug 1415 ref #: F292:8 +[22] Anne Mortimer b: 27 Dec 1390 d: Sep 1411 ref #: F232:9i *2nd Wife of [21] Richard Plantagenet: *2nd Wife of Edmund Plantagenet: 2 Thomas Plantagenet b: 7 Jan 1354/55 d: Sep 1397 ref #: F158:9 +Alianore de Bohun b: Abt. 1366 d: 3 Oct 1399 ref #: W18-8 3 Anne Plantagenet b: Apr 1383 d: 16 Oct 1438 ref #: F159:8 *2nd Husband of Anne Plantagenet: +Edmund de Stafford b: 2 Mar 1377/78 d: 21 Jul 1403 ref #: F7:10 4 [23] Humphrey Stafford b: 15 Aug 1402 d: 10 Jul 1460 ref #: F7:9 +[24] Anne Neville b: Abt. 1411 d: 20 Sep 1480 ref #: F15:11ivg *3rd Husband of Anne Plantagenet: Regards, Ed Mann References: A = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed. AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of the Princess of Wales_, [page]. AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or [Pres. # : page]. BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page]. BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page]. BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page]. BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page]. EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page]. EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II, [page]. EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II, [page]. F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para]. S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor. W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed. WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor. WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]