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Stubbs

• References:
  • The History and Antiquities of Tallaght In The County of Dublin, William Domville Handcock, 2nd edn, Dublin, 1899.
  • All Roads Lead to Tallaght, Patrick Healy, 2004.

• Sources yet to be consulted:
  • Search for Stubbs grave in [Tallaght gravestone inscriptions].

House at Bolbrook, E of Tallaght. Photo 1978.
Clearly different to Bolbrook Mill (and here).
This may be Newtown House.
See larger and full size.
Photo by Michael Fewer. From South Dublin Libraries. See terms of use.
See similar shot from same source.

Robert Stubbs,
of Newtown, just E of Tallaght village,
Newtown House was a 2 storey house, just S off the old Tallaght Rd / Blessington Rd, down slope, near the River Dodder,
Robert Stubbs is listed at Tallaght and Jobstown in [Griffiths Valuation],
at Tallaght in [Griffiths Valuation, 1847] he holds three plots of land (nos. 11, 15 and 51), no.11 has a large house and 129 acres,
at Jobstown, W of Tallaght, in [Griffiths Valuation, 1847] he holds 98 acres (plot no.3), with a small house (plot no.3a) which he is renting out to James Reilly,
at Tallaght in [Griffiths Valuation, 1850] he holds four plots of land (nos. 9, 10, 11 and 12), no.11 has a large house and 44 acres,
at Jobstown in [Griffiths Valuation, 1850] he holds 98 acres, with a small house (plot no.3),
he or his father would be Robert Stubbs of "Newton, Tallaght", who was bur at Tallaght, Mar 9, 1850, aged 74 (born 1776),
had issue:

1. Robert Stubbs, the younger, bachelor.
   This compilation of Stubbs information shows Robert Stubbs, the younger (i.e. father is Robert) with a sister who married Brown (which 1911 census shows is also sister of William).

   
   

2. Elizabeth Stubbs,
   mar William Brown of Tallaght,
   (todo) see Protestant marriage of William Doyle Brown and Elizabeth Stubbs, [GROI] Dublin South, 1854, vol 5 p 343,
   had issue:
   1. Robert Stubbs Brown [must be child of this couple],
      must be after grandfather Robert Stubbs,
      of "Garranstown, Tallaght" (now Kingswood, NW of Tallaght),
      in 1883 his child is baptised Protestant (Church of Ireland).

   2. Adelaide Brown, born 1865, Co.Dublin,
      listed as unmarried, Church of Ireland, staying with her uncle William Stubbs in 1911 census.

   
   

3. William Stubbs,
   born 1831 or 1839, Co.Dublin,
   listed as Protestant, farmer, of Newtown, Tallaght, son of Robert Stubbs, at 1st mar,
   mar 1stly, 24 March 1862 [Chapelizod CoI par records] to Georgina Underwood [Protestant, born 1841, dau of George Underwood, shoe maker, of Gallanstown, Chapelizod, Co.Dublin],
   Georgina died 1864,
   (todo) see death of Georgeena Stubbs, [GROI], Dublin South, 1864, age 23 (born 1841), vol 17, p 568,

   mar 2ndly, 1866, to Agnes Flanagan [Catholic, bapt 24th Jan 1830],
   (todo) see mar of Agnes Flanagan and William Stubbs, [GROI] Dublin South, 1866, vol 12, page 639 or 612,
   he converted to Catholicism when marrying her, he is listed as Catholic later in census, but other Stubbs remained Protestant,
   they lived Newtown House, Tallaght,
   she is "Agnes Stubbs" who sp the bapt of her nephew Michael Flanagan in 1872,
   her father William Flanagan died at their house 1874,
   Agnes died Thur 22 Oct 1896, at her residence, Newtown House, Tallaght, age 66 yrs,
   see death notice in Freemans Journal, Fri 23 Oct 1896,
   (todo) see death of Agnes Stubbs, [GROI] Dublin South, 4th qr 1896, age 61 (born 1835), vol 2 p 461,
   funeral Sun 25 Oct, bur Tallaght Churchyard, (todo) search for grave,

   the chapter "Antiquities" in [Handcock, 1899] states that: "A number of skeletons were found a few years ago in a sandpit lying to the west of Balrothery Hill. It is in a field called the Terrets, belonging to Mr. Stubbs of Newtown, on the banks of the Dodder. The skeletons were in separate graves facing east.",

   William Stubbs, Newtown, is listed under TALLAGHT in [Thom's, 1901],
   William is listed as "farmer", widower, at Tallaght in [Census, 1901],
   the house has 5 rooms, 5 windows in front of house, 9 out-buildings (consisting of 1 stable, 1 coach house, 1 cow house, 1 calf house, 1 fowl house, 1 barn, 1 potato house, 1 workshop and 1 shed),
   William Stubbs, "Newton House", is listed under TALLAGHT in [Thom's, 1910],
   he is listed as "farmer", widower, at Tallaght in [Census, 1911],
   the house has 6 rooms, 5 windows in front of house, 9 out-buildings (consisting of 1 stable, 1 coach house, 1 cow house, 1 calf house, 1 dairy, 1 piggery, 2 fowl houses and 1 barn),
   (todo) try death of William Stubbs, [GROI] Dublin South, 1st qr 1912, age 74 (born 1838), vol 2 p 535,
   had issue (census 1911 says only 1 child born):

   1. Robert Stubbs, born 1866 or 1869, Co.Dublin, Catholic,
      (todo) try birth of Robert John Stubbs, Dublin South, [GROI] 1867, vol 12 p 751,
      must be after grandfather Robert Stubbs,
      "R. Stubbs" listed as nephew of John Flanagan at his death 1894,
      living with father in 1901 census, listed as "farmer's son", single,
      living with father in 1911 census, listed as "farmer", single.

   
   

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Newtown

Think this is site of Newtown House, just NE of Bolbrook Mill, E of Tallaght.
From 1829 to 1842 map. See full size.

Map of area E of Tallaght linked to Griffiths Valuation at askaboutireland.ie.
In [Griffiths Valuation, 1847] Robert Stubbs holds plots 11, 15 and 51. Plot 11 has a large house and 129 acres.
In [Griffiths Valuation, 1850] he holds plots 9, 10, 11 and 12. Plot 11 has a large house and 44 acres.
In neither case do the numbers match this map. For example, plot 18 in both years of Griffiths is the mill, but on this map it is 19.
Enough matches to work out, though, that Stubbs must be holding 10b here (must be part of 11 in Griffiths) and that must be Newtown House.
The area around Bolbrook Mill was formerly known as Newtown.
See full size.
origins.net does not have a map with plot numbers.

Think site of Newtown House, NE of Bolbrook Mill.
From 1887 to 1913 map. See full size.

Think site of Newtown House, NE of Bolbrook Mill.
From 1940 map.

The site above is completely cleared today. Nothing is recognisable.
Newtown House would be where the Tallaght bypass passes by Glenview Park and Avonmore Rd.
Click to drag. From Google Maps. See street view.
There is a Newtown Park some distance to the W of this.

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Jobstown

At Jobstown in [Griffiths Valuation, 1847] Robert Stubbs is renting property 3 from Sir James W. Hawkins,
and he is also renting out (to James Reilly) property 3a.
Map from askaboutireland.ie.
origins.net does not have a map.
See this plot in 1829 to 1842 map and 1887 to 1913 map.
The site is completely cleared today. Nothing is recognisable.
The building would be about where the football club is on Cookstown Rd. See street view.

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• There is an earlier Flanagan - Stubbs marriage:
  • David Flanagan [or poss. Flanigan],
    mar Ann Stubbs [or Anne],
    had issue:
    1. Margaret Flanagan, bapt 1778 [Rathfarnham RC par records], must have died young (there is another Margaret).
    2. Bridget Flanagan, bapt 1780 [Rathfarnham RC par records].
    3. Jane Flanagan, bapt 1782 [Rathfarnham RC par records].
    4. Margaret Flanagan, bapt 1785 [Rathfarnham RC par records].
    5. John Flanagan, bapt 1787 [Rathfarnham RC par records].