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Ryan (Tim) of Newross, Co.Tipperary

Ryan "Cadea" of Newross, Co.Tipperary

• References:
  • "History of Ryans of New Ross", unpublished research by Fred Faulkner, 1985.
• Sources yet to be consulted:
  • Census of parishes of Birdhill and Newport, Co.Tipperary, Jan 1835 (local census), [NLI] P.1561.
• Things to do:
  • Search Kilnarath graveyard (graveyard for Newross)

Tim Ryan,
of the Ryan "Tim" family,
there are so many Ryans in Co.Tipperary that they often have an additional "family name" to identify them,
farmer in Newross (also called "Ross"), Kilnarath par, NE of Newport, Co.Tipperary (nr Doonane, Co.Tipperary, see map and 1887 to 1913 map),
NOT of Mount Prospect, NOT of Killoscully,

mar Margaret Hourigan [also written as "Peggy" in [Newport RC par records]],
she was poss. of nr Doonane, Co.Tipperary, meant to be related to Hourigan of nr Doonane who married Lane and Humphreys,
note the forest at Doonane is called Ballyhourigan Wood, in Ballyhourigan townland, N of Doonane townland, both in Killoscully par, Co.Tipperary,
this is NOT the mar of Margaret Hourigan in 1816 at Newport,

the family was in Newross since at least 1814, all children born Newross, bapt Catholics in [Newport RC par records],
he prob. died pre-1835, since [Census, 1835] apparently shows only "William Ryan (Timothy)" (prob. his brother-in-law) in Newross,
[Griffiths Valuation, 1850] shows "William Ryan (Tim)" and "Michael Ryan (Tim)" (prob. his brother-in-law and son) in Newross,
had issue:

1. Catherine Ryan, mar Michael Foley.

2. Honora Ryan, bapt 1816, mar James Foley and had issue.

3. Biddy Ryan, bapt 1818, mar Samuel Young.

   
   

4. Margaret Ryan,
   born Newross, Co.Tipperary,
   bapt "Margaret", 19th Sept 1819 [Newport RC par records], sp Matthew Coffey and --- Hourigan,
   she was apparently "Margaret Mary" (apparently her grand-dau Sighle Humphreys was bapt "Margaret Mary" after her),
   the eldest grand-dau in the Rath branch was also bapt "Margaret Mary",
   Fred Faulkner says the Ryans referred to her as "Maria", or even "Mary" or "Molly" (note her mother was Margaret, and there was no daughter Mary),
   but the Humphrys referred to her as "Margaret", and all written records say "Margaret",
   listed as "Margaret Ryan, Newross" at mar,
   mar 16 Feb 1841 [Newport RC par records],
   to James Humphrys and had issue.

   
   

5. Mickey Tim Ryan, bapt 1820.

   
   

6. Judy Ryan.

7. Joanna Ryan,
   she must be Joanna Ryan who sp bapt of John Humphrys 1843.

8. Anne Ryan,
   think NOT Ann, born Newross,
   bapt [Newport par records] 5th June 1828, sp Denis Ryan, Catherine Ryan,
   mar --- Lloyd, of Caherline, Co.Limerick,
   mar not found in [Newport par records].

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A family tree exists offline as:

Ryan (Tim) of Newross, Co.Tipperary
Ryan "Cadea" of Newross, Co.Tipperary
2nd edition, May 1992

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• Records of Four Tipperary Septs: the O'Kennedys, O'Dwyers, O'Mulryans, O'Meaghers, Martin Callanan, Galway, 1938, [CUL] 496.24.c.90.4, (todo) see for O'Mulryan of Owneybeg