Miscellaneous possibly related families
Miscellaneous families,
not called Flanagan,
that are possibly related to our Flanagan family.
Carty of Charleville House, Templeogue
Liam Cosgrave
said that
"Mrs. McCarthy"
of
Charleville, Firhouse Road, Templeogue (near Tallaght)
was meant to be a cousin of
his mother.
This must be the Carty family below.
Charleville House is found in
[Thom's]
under different locations depending on the year.
It is found under
Rathfarnham, Roundtown, Terenure and under Templeogue.
"James Reid" is listed at Charleville in
[Thom's, 1850].
"John Kellett" is listed at Charleville in
[Thom's, 1857].
Charleville House, with farm of 24 acres, is listed for sale in
Freemans Journal,
March 2, 1857
(see under "Auctions").
"James Reid" is listed at Charleville in
[Thom's, 1858].
Carty are
listed at Charleville in
[Thom's] from 1859 to 1887 or 1888.
"John Carty" is
listed at Charleville in
[Thom's] 1859 to 1882.
"Mrs. Carthy" of Charleville is listed in
Irish Times,
July 9, 1873,
as a subscriber for the new church at Rathfarnham
(as is William Flanagan junior).
"William Carty" is listed at Charleville in
[Thom's] 1883 to at least 1887.
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"P.J. McCabe" is
listed
at Charleville in Freemans Journal,
June 22, 1888
(see small ads under "Horses for sale").
"Mr. P.J. McCabe" is
listed at Charleville in
[Thom's, 1889].
"Mrs. B. Baldwin" and "Charles C. Baldwin" are
listed at Charleville in
[Thom's, 1894].
"Joseph G. Furlong" is listed at Charleville in
[Thom's, 1901].
"Mrs. Gibson" is
listed at Charleville in
[Thom's, 1906].
"Doody, P. & O'Loughlin" are
listed at Charleville in
[Thom's, 1910].
"P.Doody" is listed at Charleville in
[Thom's, 1919].
"Mrs. Doody" is listed at Charleville in
[Thom's, 1945].
Charleville House survives today.
It is now a school.
See satellite view.
See NIAH.
They might be the following:
- Ellen Flanagan, born est c.1810,
mar William Carty,
had issue:
- Thomas Carty,
bapt 21 February 1839
[St.Catherine's RC par records],
Dublin,
sp Maurice Kent and Bridget Jackson.
Not relevant:
- Ellen Carty, born 1797,
pauper, died South Dublin workhouse,
28 Mar 1867, age 70,
see
[GROI], 1867,
Dublin South.
Charleville House on
1887 to 1913 map.
Charleville House.
See full size.
From South Dublin Libraries.
Michael Francis Doyle thought he was a cousin.
[Frank Flanagan's memoirs] say he was:
"A relation of mine".
Not related to
these Doyles.
Could be related to
these Doyles.
-
John J. Doyle,
born in Co.Wexford
[according to Noreen Doyle].
He
mar Mary Hughes.
They had issue:
-
Michael Francis Doyle,
born c.1880, Philadelphia, Irish-American.
He was an international lawyer.
A
prominent Democrat.
Very wealthy.
Secretary to
William Jennings Bryan,
presumably when he was US Secretary of State 1913-1915.
He represented Irish nationalists in America.
He helped get
Eamon de Valera
saved from execution after the 1916 Rising,
by presenting the evidence that De Valera was an American citizen.
He came from America to assist in the defence of
Roger Casement
in his trial for treason in
1916.
He was also counsel in a libel case for Casement's friend
Thomas St.John Gaffney.
He
mar 1917 to Nancy O'Donoghue. No issue.
American counsel for Irish Republican Movement, 1921.
He was a friend of George Bernard Shaw
and John McCormack.
Candidate for Presidential Elector
for Pennsylvania, 1928, 1932.
A
devout Catholic,
he was a
Knight of the Holy Sepulchre.
He left about £40,000
to repair the roof of the
Church of the Holy Sepulchre
in Jerusalem.
See letter
to TIME magazine, Apr 15, 1940.
It
says he is then a practicing lawyer in Philadelphia.
He was a
close friend of
Franklin D. Roosevelt,
US President 1933-1945.
He was an adviser to Harry S. Truman, US President 1945-1953.
He was described as
"Truman's right-hand man".
NUI
conferred Doctorate of Laws on him.
Nancy fl 1951.
He was part of an American syndicate that purchased
Kenmare House, Killarney, Co.Kerry in 1957.
He fl 1958.
The Trial of Roger Casement, 1916,
painted by
John Lavery.
Michael Francis Doyle is in the picture, but obscured.
Painting on long-term loan to the
King's Inns.
See
larger.
From
John McGuiggan.
Michael Francis Doyle is no.9 in the picture.
See other photo
and other key
on display at
Kerry County Museum.
Michael Francis Doyle.
From Casement display at
Kerry County Museum.
See larger
and larger
and full size.
See other photo.
Michael Francis Doyle at the trial of Roger Casement in 1916.
From a display at King's Inns.
Thought to be from a photo in the Daily Telegraph, 19 July 1916.
See full size.
See key.
Michael Francis Doyle and his wife Nancy,
after audience with
Pope Pius XII,
Jan 1951.
See larger
and full size.
Michael Francis Doyle
with the new
Pope John XXIII,
1958.
Frank Flanagan said that
Lawlor of Irishtown House, Clondalkin, Co.Dublin,
were relations.
But
Dody Lawlor said they weren't.
She said the Flanagans were gardeners to the Lamphiers
and that is how the two families knew each other.
Dody Lawlor thought the Flanagans were gardeners to the Lamphiers
when the Lamphiers lived at
Drimnagh Castle,
but in fact it was
Bridget Cavanagh's family that lived at Drimnagh Castle.
John Byrne confirms there is no record
of the Lamphiers living at Drimnagh Castle.
Lamphier lived at Ballyfermot Castle.
It also seems that the Flanagans knew the Lawlors
from before they were connected with Lamphier.
Whether related or not,
Liam Cosgrave says
the families
were always very good friends:
-
Joseph Lamphier.
NOT Lanphier. French.
Lieutenant,
or
Lieutenant Colonel.
He
mar Bridget Cavanagh [or Cavanaugh, or Mary Bridget Cavanagh,
born 1788].
Her family lived at
Drimnagh Castle
in 19th century.
Joe Webster
says she was of Goldenbridge.
They lived Ballyfermot.
His military records in
[NA.UK]
say he lived at the medieval
Ballyfermot Castle.
BALLYFERMOT
in
[Lewis, 1837]
says:
"Ballyfermot Castle, an ancient building, is now the residence of Capt. Lamplin".
"Capt. S. Lanphier",
Ballyfermot Castle, is one of the subscribers to
[Lewis, 1837].
This might be a relation of Joseph rather than himself.
Wikipedia
says
Joseph and Bridget lived in the 17th century
Ballyfermot House
beside the older
Ballyfermot Castle.
Joseph was bur Goldenbridge cemetery,
Inchicore, 7th Nov 1838.
Family lived 142 James's St, Dublin, before c.1850.
Bridget bur Goldenbridge, 23rd Feb 1870, age 82 yrs.
Joseph and Bridget had issue:
- Margaret Lamphier,
bapt 23 November 1811
[St.James' RC church, James's St, Dublin].
- Bridget Lamphier,
Bridget Ann,
bapt 22 September 1816
[St.James' RC church, James's St, Dublin].
- William Lamphier.
- Marianne Lamphier [or Maryanne, or Mary Anne],
born est c.1820,
mar John Lawlor
[born est c.1810] and had issue.
- Patrick Lamphier.
- Peter Lamphier, born 1827,
bapt 20 Apr 1827
[Clondalkin RC par records],
emigrated to Canada.
- Ellen Lamphier, mar --- Bradley.
- Joseph Lamphier,
born Co.Dublin,
meant to be born 12 Mar 1831, but must be 1830,
bapt 12 Mar 1830
[Clondalkin RC par records],
emigrated to Canada,
great grandfather of:
- Joe Webster.