Lloyd
The family that married
Humphrys
are the
Catholic Lloyds of Portnard.
Could they be related to the
Protestant Lloyds of Portnard?
Some disinherited branch of the family
who were given a lease on the family estate?
There is no solid evidence of that so far.
Portnard townland, Tuogh parish, Co.Limerick.
From
1829 to 1842 map.
Portnard is quite a large townland.
Should we expect that Catholic Lloyd of Portnard
are related to Protestant Lloyd of Portnard?
Protestant Lloyd of Towerhill and Portnard
Lloyd were prominent Protestant landowners in E Co.Limerick
from the 17th century on.
Lloyd of
Towerhill
are ancestors of Lloyd of
Linfield, Castle Lloyd, Pallasbeg, Beechmount, Heathfield
and Odell Ville, all in Co.Limerick.
Rev. Thomas Lloyd,
born 1690,
of
Towerhill, Co.Limerick.
He mar 1stly, 1710,
to
Mary Burgh
[descendant of
Edward I].
She died 1722.
His will dated 1741, pr 1746.
He had issue by 1st wife:
Rev. Rickard Lloyd,
born 1716,
of Castle Lloyd, Co.Limerick.
He mar Mary Armstrong
[dau of William Armstrong of Mealiffe (Moyaliffe), Co.Tipperary].
He died 1796, age 80 yrs.
They had issue:
Rev. Edward Lloyd,
born 1755.
Rector of
Fethard, Co.Tipperary.
He mar Denise Connor.
He died 1810, age 55 yrs.
[Andrew Morgan] thinks they are parents of:
-
Rev. Rickard Lloyd,
born 1795,
of Meldrum, Co.Tipperary,
and Portnard, Co.Limerick.
He
mar 1843 to Elizabeth Coote.
Lloyd papers
show Lloyd of Portnard as related
to the main family.
Rev. Rickard is
listed
in
[Griffiths Valuation, 1851]
as holding all of Portnard,
and living in the big house, Portnard House.
John Lloyd
is renting from him.
He died 1856, age 61 yrs.
Rev. Rickard and Elizabeth
had issue:
- Rickard Edward Lloyd,
or Richard, of Portnard, born 1846.
He mar 1878 to Isabel Neilson Cassells.
He died 1889, age 43 yrs.
She is
listed
in 1911 census as "Isabella Lloyd", Protestant, widow,
at Portnard.
Lloyd papers
show
"Sale of Portnard, Cappamore (1910-1913)".
Catholic Lloyd of Portnard
Our Lloyd family starts with John Lloyd of Portnard, a Catholic.
He
is listed in
[Griffiths Valuation, 1851]
as renting land in Portnard from Rev. Rickard Lloyd above.
David Lloyd
says there was a story in his family that
John Lloyd of Caherline
was Protestant.
[Andrew Morgan]
says
it was his father (i.e. John Lloyd of Portnard) who was Protestant.
-
John Lloyd,
born est c.1795,
of Portnard, Tuogh par, Co.Limerick.
NOT Tom.
He was born or became Catholic.
Towerhill House,
S of
Cappamore, E Co.Limerick.
The original seat of Lloyd in the 17th century.
Entry
in
[NIAH]
says the current house dates from 1760-1800.
It is now in ruins.
Towerhill House on
1829 to 1842 map.
See modern
satellite view
and
street view
of N entrance.
The ruined Towerhill House.
From
photos
at
[NIAH].
Portnard House, Portnard,
Tuogh par, Co.Limerick
(N of
Cappamore).
Not far from
Glenstal.
Portnard is a large townland.
-
In the 1901 census:
- In the 1911 census:
Portnard House.
From
1887 to 1913 map.
See modern
satellite view.
Portnard House (now a ruin).
From
photos
at
[NIAH].
Entry
at
[NIAH]
says Portnard House was built 1780-1820.
References
Sources yet to be consulted
